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(Date Posted:28/05/2017 1:29 PM)
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A message posted in 3A approx 2008.  There was no intention of it being any more than a regular comment to a thread but was published on many blogs and apparently a copy sent to the hospital where Matthew worked…. I wrote it from my heart…

Matthew....

I realise that sometimes memory can play tricks but recognising Thursday May 3rd as such an important day, I'm sure that a day or so later it would not have been difficult for you to remember the main details and there would be no reason for them to not be consistent with your other friends.

Therefore I ask you this....


Chivying the Paynes
 
You claim to have gone to chivvy the Paynes just prior to 9.00pm May 3rd.
 
You claim to have passed the at the top of the road...

May 10th -The deponent added that DP, FP and DW were still not present – and as he could see their apartment lights burning – he resolved to go to them, clarifying that he did not reach that apartment as those people were already on their way to the restaurant. He clarifies [further] thathe met them near the living quarters, at the corner next to the main door of the McCann apartment.

Fiona claims to have passed you outside 5A
 
David Payne claims to have passed you by the swimming pool
 
Dianne Webster was absolutely sure you weren't there...
 
Until the Rogatory interviews when she says that David and Fiona reminded her.....
 
Who is lying?


Mens Social Tennis

You claim to have seen Kate and the children when you arrived and the other women and children joined them later.

when they arrived at that meeting GM was already there, with KM and her children watching the match, the rest of the women and children joining them [KM and children] later.

Kate tells us she didn't go to the tennis courts.  Madeleine was tired and Kate and Gerry carried Madeleine back to te apartment at 5.40 when you were still down at the beach.

You say you finished at 7.00pm and you, David and Russell went back to your apartments, but David did not make it back to the tennis courts until  6.45pm at the very earliest as before he started playing he stopped at Kates apartment nd saw the children including Madeleine.

Where was he? With you or at Kates apartment?

Are you lying or is David lying?


Thursday lunch

You claim to have gone to Paynes for lunch on Thursday.

Fiona says they had lunch alone and you had lunch with Rachael, Russell and Jane.

I would consider that easy to remember so who is lying?

Fiona or yourself?

If so, then why?

Checking the children

You claim to have left the table with Russell at 9.25, (justifying two of you checking 3 apartments).  You walked up to the top of the road and went to your apartment next to the McCanns.

After checking you went to Russells apartment where his daughter was crying and had vomited.  Russell decided to stay and look after his daughter so you walked through his apartment and left through the back way as this was the shortest route for you to check te McCanns children.

You went  a short distance inside the apartment, saw the two cots, noticed more light in their room than in your daughters room next door and you then left.

You claim to have returned to the tapas restaurant at around 9.30pm within 5 minutes of the time you left. 

I would question whether that was possible, considering it takes a couple of minutes to walk the distance to the front doors of the apartments, added to going into your apartment, closing and locking and then visiting Russell and walking through his apartment and through the back gate, up to the McCanns apartment, in through the sliding doors, back down and walking back to the restaurant.

I would guess it took a little longer than less than 5 minutes...Important to be precise as the timeline is important considering Madeleine apparently disappeared around that time. 

It is more likely that you did not return until at least 9.35pm and told everyone that things were fine.

May I ask you.....Were you REALLY checking the children as you say?

Why did you tell Kate you would check on Madeleine?

Why not her 'children'?

I believe that you went on that holiday with the belief that your children would be looked after properly while you shared time with your friends for the evening meal.

I feel there is no question that you love and care  lot for your little girl.

I don't believe that you would leave her alone in the apartment.  I think you all had arrangements in place for the children to be watched.

You were apparently 'ill' on Sunday night,  Rachael was apparently 'ill' on Wednesday night (there is also a question as to whether she was 'ill' on Tuesday night also).

Your apartment was right next door to Kate and Gerry's and only 2 doors away from Russell and Janes apartment, so it would have made so much sense for you to share watching the children and, I believe you did!

How were you to know that something terrible would happen to Madeleine?

Did Gerry tell you straight away or did he wait until he hd figured out what he was going to do, and then ask for your support leaving you no time to think straight or realise the repercussions.

I'm sure he made you feel confident that he knew what he was doing and to trust him.  All you had to do was to avoid discussing the obvious and to just follow the plan.

I am sure you were shocked and devasted about what had happened and probably had many questions that maybe, to this day, remain unanswered.  

Had this situation happened to you, it would have been handled differently and there must have been many hours of discussing this with Rachael (and maybe, Russell and Jane).

You followed the 'procedure', for that night, hoping that you were doing the right thing but what option did you have?

I'm sure there was a lot of pressure to follow the plan as everyone else was, and goodness knows what would have happened had you 'broken ranks' and contacted the police, but you were probably assured that everything would be OK.

You had not done anything wrong and you maybe, didn't know all the details and it all happened so quickly......

I think it was you (or Russell) who did not want the media contacted.  Gerry and Dave wanted to, so you probably had no choice in the matter.

You had no idea of the repercussions from your decision to 'support' Gerry and Kate.

You 'trusted' this man (that you actually found quite boring) but he abused your trust and  because of his arrogance and subsequent greed your life has been devastated.

You didn't deserve that.  You made a mistake and you will 'pay' for it for the rest of your life.

If you could re-live those moments again, there would be no question you would have handled it differently.

I wonder whether its too late to make a difference....

You have tremendous pressure right now to remain quiet about everything that happened.

You are living with the knowledge and you, as well as Gerry and Kate and the others are hoping that the information contained in the police files and the videos of the dogs finding cadaver scent on Kates clothes and behind their couch and in the car, are not going to make headlines in Britain.

You, of course know that once they do, your life, and that of Rachael and your daughter will not only suffer the consequences of what those in the general public will know about your part in the simulated abduction but don't forget what is most important to you......

Can your family and friends have the same respect for you ever again?

Can you imagine a life where you will never again be trusted and the hurt you will have imposed on all the innocent members of your family?

The information WILL become available, you know that...

You wish for it all to go away but you know it won't....You have far worse to go through yet.

There are millions of people all over the world that care about Madeleine, many of them do not know the details that the police report revealed.  You can read it all here...

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PJ/TAVARES_AMELIA.htm

A report by Chief Inspector Tavares de Almeida to the Coordinator of the Criminal Investigation


Where he concludes, after analyzing all the evidence gathered, that the child is dead and the parents were responsible for cadaver occultation, and the entire GROUP was lying since the first day of the investigation.

There are thousands of people that have been privy to reading all the details of the police investigation.  

Unlike Kate and Gerry, who used 'public money' to be able to read it, the files were translated freely by wonderful people that care enough about Madeleine to put their heart and soul into seeking the truth.

All of these people have put in millions of hours.  They would have willingly helped Kate and Gerry in their search for Madeleine had they been asked, at no cost to anyone!

Unfortunately, Kate and Gerry didn't ask anyone to help.  Everyone knows why and so do you...

Matthew, am I underestimating you?

Is the support of Kate and Gerry worth more than your own self respect and the respect of your family?

I know you have the courage to do whats right.

Your family will be proud of you and people all over the world will one day, maybe, be able to forgive you for lying.  You probably felt it was the right thing to do at the time and after that, you thought there was no turning back, but you can make a difference now....

It will not be easy and you will be taking a step that will place you in the line of fire from everyone that has been deceived up until now, but in the end you will have, at least, a little peace,  knowing that regardless of a bad decision you made three years ago in Praia da Luz you will finally be able to hold your head up high.

If you can find it within your heart to free yourself of the pressure by doing what is right, and when the truth is made public, you will find that you have the support of thousands of members from forums dedicated to finding justice for little Maddie.

Only then can Madeleine be laid to Rest in Peace with the dignity and respect that she deserves. 

Matthew....

Do it for yourself, do it for your family but most of all do it for precious little Madeleine...

She no longer has a voice and she needs you.....





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RE:HiDeHo's Message to Matthew
(Date Posted:28/05/2017 3:53 PM)




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RE:HiDeHo's Message to Matthew
(Date Posted:28/05/2017 3:57 PM)

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/article1035096.ece

THE most significant witness in the hunt for Maddie McCann has withdrawn her statement according to Portuguese newspaper reports.

Jane Tanner, 37, who said she saw the man who took Maddie on the night of her disappearance has withdrawn her statement, 24 Horas claims.

She has told Portuguese authorities she can no longer be sure the man she saw was carrying Madeleine.

Jane, one of the so-called Tapas Nine, had given detectives a detailed description of a man she saw, close to the ground floor corner apartment where the McCanns were staying on the night of her disappearance.

Based on her account, the McCanns produced an artist's impression of the man, in the hope that it might jog the memory of other holidaymakers.

The information was also used by police and private detectives employed by the McCann's in the search for Maddie.

The leaked story will be a massive blow to Kate and Gerry McCann as they try to renew the search for their daughter nearly a year after her disappearance.

The pair were already considering pulling out of plans to return to Portugal to help police reconstruct the events around their daughter Madeleine's disappearance amid a furious row over leaked interviews.

The McCanns believe transcripts of statements they gave to detectives in the hours after their daughter went missing on May 3 last year were deliberately slipped to the media by the Portuguese authorities.

The excerpts include the disclosure that Madeleine and her brother Sean apparently woke up crying the night before the three-year-old's disappearance, but her parents did not hear her as they were in a nearby restaurant.

The interviews disclosed that Madeleine asked Kate, 39, at breakfast on May 3: "Mummy, why didn't you come when we were crying last night?"

The couple are demanding a full internal investigation from the Portuguese Ministry of Justice into whether the detail was deliberately passed to a Spanish journalist to "smear" them on the day they launched a campaign in Brussels for a new Europe-wide child alert system.

An artist's impression of the man Kate and Gerry McCann believe abducted their daughter

Their local MP Stephen Dorrell has pledged to raise the matter with the Foreign Office and it is understood the McCanns' Portuguese lawyers will be protesting to the relevant authorities there.

Their spokesman Clarence Mitchell called for the Portuguese government to "get a grip" of the leaks.

Although discussions about a possible return to Portugal to help police piece together the events of that night are still ongoing, the mood of co-operation has soured markedly.

"All this nonsense over the last 24 or 36 hours does not in any way endear them to the idea of going back," Mr Mitchell said.

It emerged yesterday that Paulo Rebelo, the detective leading the case, has already flown back to Portugal from the UK - a day earlier than expected.

Mr Mitchell said he hoped this meant Mr Rebelo had gone back "to crack some skulls".

His team of Portuguese police has been in the UK all week sitting in on interviews with the McCanns' friends who were dining with them at the time of Madeleine's disappearance.

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RE:HiDeHo's Message to Matthew
(Date Posted:28/05/2017 4:11 PM)

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Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story'



Two of the friends that dined with Kate and Gerry McCann on the night Madeleine disappeared have told Portuguese police that they want to change their stories, it has been claimed.

Lawyers acting for the pair are said to have contacted Portuguese detectives leading the enquiry to say their clients are willing to be re-interviewed so they can "correct" their original statements.

The Spanish daily El Mundo reported that the two members of the so-called Tapas Nine - the name given to the McCanns and the seven friends who dined with them on May 3 at their Algarve holiday complex - have asked for their identities to be kept secret.

"Lawyers of two of the friends of the McCanns that dined with them on the night of May 3 in the tapas restaurant have contacted police recently and said their clients are willing to be requestioned so they can 'correct' details of their original statements," said the El Mundo report.

"These two members of the group have asked for their identities to be kept secret."

The seven holidaying with the McCanns at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz are Jane Tanner, 37, her partner Dr Russell O'Brien, 36, Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, his wife Rachael, 36, David Payne, 41, his wife Fiona, 34, and her mother Dianne Webster, 61.

This weekend it was reported that four of them fear they are about to be named formal suspects by Portuguese police.

Mr O'Brien and Ms Tanner, Mr Oldfield and Dr Payne are all said to have consulted their own lawyers in anticipation of being made official arguidos because of apparent inconsistencies in key statements made immediately after Madeleine vanished.

Strict Portuguese secrecy laws have prevented the McCanns and the friends they were holidaying with from speaking publicly about the series of events the night Madeleine disappeared.

But several apparent contradictions have emerged in the six months since the four-year-old went missing, including the timings of events and how much alcohol was consumed on the night.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, denied that any of the friends had officially approached the Portuguese police through their lawyers but said that they were happy to be reinterviewed by police if it resolved any apparent inconsistencies and hastened the McCanns being cleared.

"Contrary to a report in the Spanish press, and after consultation amongst Gerry and Kate McCann's friends, I can deny that any approach has been made by their lawyers asking to amend or change the witness statement of any of them," he said.

"Kate and Gerry's friends, who were with them on May 3, have consistently told the truth and remain happy, indeed they are keen, to be reinterviewed by the police if necessary to clarify any inconsistencies in the statements that the police may think they have identified.

"The friends believe that if such interviews or reinterviews take place it can only lead to Gerry and Kate being eliminated from the inquiry swiftly."

The McCanns were declared arguidos by Portuguese detectives in September the day before they finally flew back to the UK after four months in Portugal.

They deny any involvement in their daughter's disappearance and insist she may still be alive.


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Re:HiDeHo's Message to Matthew
(Date Posted:28/05/2017 4:21 PM)

 JULY 22, 2015 EDIT

12 – Tapas 7 – Pressured by McCanns? – In Wrong Place at Wrong Time?

TAPAS 7

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McCanns accused of pressuring Tapas Nine to ‘keep them silent’  Last updated at 15:04pm on 12th November 2007

Madeleine McCann’s parents faced fresh allegations today that they are pressurising their friends into keeping silent over the events surrounding their daughter’s disappearance.

One of the “Tapas nine” who was dining with the couple on the night Madeleine vanished is said to feel “obliged to keep silent”. 
Respected Spanish newspaper El Mundo quoted an un-named lawyer, said to represent the friend, criticising the McCanns’ advisers. 
The lawyer told the newspaper: My client feels obliged to keep silent about what he can do to help the investigation, and not because of the Portuguese secrecy laws. 
“This is very revealing about the strange circumstances surrounding this case. 
“It’s not that he is scared of the McCanns, but the economic and political lobby surrounding the couple is truly frightening to anybody. 
“What my client wants is to reveal the whole truth, but he does not mean to accuse or blame anyone, as that is the job of the police. 
“The only thing he wants is to help the police discover the truth about what happened before, during and after that dinner on May 3.” 
Last week El Mundo reported that lawyers acting for two of the McCanns’ friends have contacted Portuguese police to say they wish to “correct” certain parts of their statements. 
Gerry and Kate McCann’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell denied the report and said it was not true that any of the couple’s friends want to change their stories.
But the British lawyer, who has an office in London, told El Mundo: “If you take into account all of the pressure that has been placed on my client and on other people, it is perfectly natural and understandable that my client has not told Clarence Mitchell of his decision to hire his own lawyer to co-operate more closely with the police.” 
Four of the Tapas Nine: (clockwise from top left) Fiona Payne, Jane Tanner, Russell O’ Brien, Rachael Oldfield. Not pictured are Matthew Oldfield, David Payne, and Dianne Webster 
The lawyer also claimed that on the night of May 3 the McCanns did not call the police until they had discussed the possible implications for them of having left their three children alone in the holiday apartment. 
The lawyer said: “The police were only informed after the group in question analysed the problems they could face for having left the children alone, and until now, my client has not had the opportunity to talk for himself about it all.” 
The lawyer, who is said to have been hired by the friend in September, was also critical of the help the McCanns have been given by the British authorities. 
He said: “I understand perfectly that our government is legally obliged to help the McCanns. 
“What I can’t understand is that they have received help which goes far beyond what would be considered normal in a case like this. 
“However, from the very beginning it has been clear that the Madeleine case is not a normal police case. 
“It’s not my job to have to explain why and how certain politicians have intervened in this case, but I’m afraid these interventions have been prejudicial not only to my client, but also for determining the truth. 
“My client has not received any personal support from the British authorities, only that which has come through the McCann couple. 
“I don’t want to accuse anyone, but there are people very close to the McCanns who are not helping them at all. 
“The intention of my client is to bring to light the truth of this sad story, without any concern for who might be implicated.” 
Four of the Tapas Nine, the name given to Gerry and Kate McCann and the seven friends they were dining with on the night Madeleine disappeared from the holiday complex in the Algarve, have reportedly brought in their own lawyers as they prepared to be named as official suspects. 
Missing: And, at the centre of it all, four-year-old Madeleine McCann, who has been missing for six months 
A Sunday newspaper named the four as Russell O’Brien and his partner Jane Tanner, Matthew Oldfield and Dr David Payne. 
It claimed they had been warned they would join the McCanns and Robert Murat as “arguidos” after the discovery by Portuguese investigators of inconsistencies in key statements made immediately after Madeleine vanished. 
Dr Payne, a 41-year-old cardiovascular researcher from Leicester, was the last person outside the McCann family to see Madeleine at the Ocean Club resort on May 3. 
Gerry asked him to check on his wife and children while he having a tennis lesson at about 6.30pm. 
Attention has also focused on Jane Tanner’s claim she saw a man carrying a girl from the McCanns’ ground floor apartment at about 9.15pm – when another witness says he was outside the flat at the same time but did not see her or the mystery man. 
Mr Oldfield, 37, from south London, has said he entered the McCanns’ apartment to check on the children about 30 minutes before Madeleine was reported missing by her mum. 
He told police that although he had seen the McCanns’ two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, their sister’s bed was out of his sight-line. 
Dr O’Brien, 36, from Exeter, was away from the group for up to 45 minutes between 9.30pm until 10.15pm while he tended to his own child who was sick in his apartment. 
He told police he had changed her bedlinen, but staff at the Ocean Club were said to have denied any change of sheets was requested. 
The McCanns and their friends have always denied any involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance – and insist she was kidnapped. 
They are barred by strict Portuguese secrecy laws from speaking about the events of May 3 but recently issued a statement denying they had a “pact of silence” or that they were covering up a secret. Portuguese police are preparing to send a three-man team led by chief investigator Paulo Rebelo to the UK to reinterview the Tapas Nine.
British detectives will ask questions put to them by their Portuguese counterparts.

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