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Status: The times- they are a' changen'

(Date Posted:04-22-2010 12:50 AM)
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"Sometimes We do things under cover or in secret- but when we are ready- we will come forward and when we do- we will do so with courage and knowledge of the truth behind our works."
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RE:The Broom Closet Group
(Date Posted:05-29-2010 7:37 AM)

Well ladies and gents...(are there gents around?)  I did it.  I opened the broom closet door and let my husband see inside a little! I took the opportunity to tell him of a couple of friends that I have on my Facebook that he may be mad about.  He was making fun of Facebook because we were watching South Park's episode about Facebook.

When I told him about having friends that I chat with sometimes, who are Christian witches, he just said at first "That is so wrong, it's just not right."  I waited a little after he said that and asked "So you don't want me talking to those ladies?"  I really had no intent of cutting off my relationship with them, I was just feeling around to see what he thought. He told me that he didn't care and said it in a tone that was like "I trust you", and he said to just be careful and use discernment.  I then told him that my past experience, (quick to remind him of what I was doing when we got married) has helped me to know if what I have found now is true.  Those were the last words that I said and he didn't seem to be too worried about it all and did nod his head to me acknowledging what I had said.

It has been a great feeling to get this off my chest because I felt soooooo bad for keeping this from him and realized how wrong it was to do so. Now I feel I can be more "open" around him when I'm sending a message to my witchy friends and not be so worried about it.  Maybe I can even use that as a way to allow him to see that there is truth in this blended path and help to relieve some anxiety and even answer questions he may have!  I overheard a conversation he was having with his boss on different translations of the Bible and which is the closest to the original.  So I think he has questions of his own too! 

It's funny though, I think I've been experiementing with a couple of my good friends because I've shared some knowledge with them about my interests, I guess to see what reaction I would get.  Neither one seems to be running from me yet! LOL 

So, here I am with half my body standing in the doorway of my broom closet!  It has actually been sort of fun stepping out!

Many blessings and courage to any of you who are still keeping yourself in the closet.  You'll be ready one day, be patient with yourself and pray about it during the Full Moons to help you banish any fear, and to help you sort out the anxiety that holds you back. 

Blessed Be,
MP
    
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Status: The times- they are a' changen'

RE:The Broom Closet Group
(Date Posted:06-02-2010 11:44 AM)

MotherPhoenix,

I would tend to say that if people are comfortable with your practice and where you are going with your Spiritual path instead of being resistant in what ever way most folks would be- make it a point to focus a little on the aspects of knowing that you're not seeing judgement and that the feeling of being relieved helps you to make progress in your daily life and works now.

Coming out went a little easier for you than it did for me but every situation is different and this is just the beginning process of being confident and strong regarding where you stand Spiritually.

Missy.
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Re:The Broom Closet Group
(Date Posted:06-02-2010 12:50 PM)

 MP, Yay... I am so happy for you!  I can say I am blessed in the fact that my hubby knows, understands and we even learn a bit together.  My children know too for the most part, in fact my oldest (soon to be 13) has just asked if he could start learning about the elements and (I thought this was cute) he asked if he could begin to do magic!

I just wish I could be open with friends and certain family members.  I hate living with half of me in the broom closet and the other half stirring the cauldron.  I still think it is funny when guest come over and comment on how cute my kitchen witch is... Or take delight in the hand made wand I made or my crystals and such nice herbs that I grow.  But I can say I feel things changing and I feel that the broom closet may be just a place I store my broom very soon!
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16 This is what the LORD says:
"Stand at the crossroads and look;
ask for the ancient paths,
ask where the good way is, and walk in it,
and you will find rest for your souls.

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Re:The Broom Closet Group
(Date Posted:06-02-2010 1:16 PM)

It has actually been pretty funny since I told him.  He has taken every opportunity to poke fun at me, but in an accepting way.  To my surprise he hasn't poked fun in a sarcastic tone...like I expected.  I imagine he has suspected something for a while anyway.  Now maybe it is a relief for both of us.   

I don't think he would be very comfortable with me sharing this with the kids at this point, mainly for fear of the younger ones accidentally saying something to someone that would not accept it very well.  My oldest is 12 and I think in a year or so I can be a little more open around her.  She is very mature spiritually for her age anyway and I think she has realized truths already that has taken me years to accept.  

Thanks for your support ladies.  I'm thankful to be able to be a part of this group!


 
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Re:The Broom Closet Group
(Date Posted:06-03-2010 8:03 AM)

 I am so happy to hear he is taking it well Phoenix :)
I am lucky with my husband he is very eclectic and a solitary witch as well, if we run into walls it is on the Christain side of the equation, not because he doesnt believe only that we do not believe the same. Either way we are both growing and because of that we actually enjoy bouncing ideas off of each other. I also tried to share it with 2 very close friends because they asked me I feel strongly in telling the truth. One of them took it very well and asked me to do a tarot reading almost immediately. She still calls me when she has questions about things she can not explain away. The other friend remaines a friend but also remaines very confused, she accepts and consults the witch in me when she needs a witch or council but when all is well she prefers to think I am crazy .. sigh ( aren't we all lol ). My children know enough and are learning more as they get older. I want them to follow their own paths so I do not push them to any specific religion etc but encourage them to read the bible and ask questions and always believe in the power of faith, miracles, and magic. The rest of my family remains in the dark but all suspect. My own mother who has seen many spirits etc often talks to me about all of the things involved in our faith but still becomes upset hearing the word witch so we just talk about "all that stuff" lol, in her social structure I can read tarot, see and talk with ghosts, and repeat prayers 3 times when I lose my keys just as she taught me, but I may not say agnostic or witch and must stay away from spirit boards ( she had very bad experiences). So in conclusion some take it better then others. Well Im yammering on and on, I forgot my point :)
Blessed Be!!!
Angel aka MoheJohe
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Blessed be,
MoheJohe

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Status: The times- they are a' changen'

RE:The Broom Closet Group
(Date Posted:06-03-2010 11:05 AM)

MoheJohe,

You reminded me of some of my family members.

I went through several different practices before having coverted to Christian then to Christo Eclectic and the funny thing was that- my Maternal Grandmother knew- my brother knew and my mother knew and not one of them ever laid down guidelines for what terms a person could or couldn't use- instead they all figured that since I have a bit of a strong sense for reveling in my own Individuality and going against the grain in life any ways- that I was on the road to discovering my perpetual direction hehehe. I did so quite a bit back in the day as it was so I took such thoughts with relative ease hehe.

Not a whole lot phased my side of the family back in the day but I can garantee that my husband's side would have had several differences of opinion. My husband's side of the family- minus 2- are devout Lutherans and they take their Denominational Spiritual views a little too seriously and mostly because my Father-in-Law happens to be an active part of the Altar Crew for their church (I've seen it first hand- unfortunately) hence their extreme pressure regarding "Thou must attendeth Chruch every Sunday as such is ordered by the Lord- Sayeth the Lord". Good Night I hate that!

Now granted that I know that my side of the family wouldn't raise much- if any issues about my being a Christo Eclectic- I'm pretty sure that my husband's side would raise a fairly large stink about whether I was truly following the path of Christ or not and mostly because I'm not doing so in the ways that Humanity devised in order to gain Spiritual control over its own nor am I making it a point to ignore the true spiritual relationship with Christ that I was meant to have.  Such ideals would come out of them- just as they came out of my husband at first- but in "Beat around the bush" style ways in hopes to come out all knowing and infinitely right about such. Been there- done that before- right?

Either way: My husband had already explained to them at one point- why it was that I don't attend church and he told me- that he told them that- I don't believe in Denominationalism and that I had- had some very bad experiences with a religious organization as a child and in such regards- he's right for reasoning that Over-zealous- Domineering- Control freak Berean Lutherans ruined the whole church scene for me thanks to how one of their foster home / group homes had wrongfully treated me.

This is the narrwed down description of Berean Lutherans- If I were to tell the whole story- it would take up at least a full page:

Bereans who encorporate any denomination into their practice ( Berean Lutheran, Berean Methodist etc. etc- they're out there- trust me ) have a tendency to over do it with discplinary measures regarding anything and everything and so much so that it literally reaches the point of being considered downright abusive. They're over zealously self righteous and worst yet they blaspheme from here to kingdom-come and back. They ever so blatently dare to claim that they have the power above all and were blessed with the grace of God to save souls which I know for a fact is a Bold Faced LIE as well as sheer and utter Blasphemy!

They use such blasphemy to cover up the fact that they are religiously power hungry and they like to think themselves as being the right hands of Christ and could change the world to their way of Spiritually thinking so that years down the road they will have full Spiritual control over it- which I tend to know is just being down-right Spiritually stupid and a means of purchasing a one way ticket straight to the pits of fire!

For 24 years now- I have followed the Independent and Solitary path in everything that I have practiced and or have done in life thanks to the Berean Lutherans. I see the truth for what it really is and I have known on several occasions what my missions were beyond having suffered at their Evil hands and I have done everything that I can to be the supportive shoulder down the road of life- the Defender of the under-dog- the closet cleaner aka dragging skeletons out of closets and so much more. 

If my Parents-in-Law knew the full story behind my loathing of denominationalism and my complete contempt for attending church- I think they would either understand- or stand and defend various other denominational sects from fitting into the same details as the Berean Lutherans much like my husband still does- since there are other forms of Lutheranism as well- too many forms if you ask me. I have my own theory on Lutheranism as it is and such more or less centers around Spiritual Independence- not the creation of another denomination named after a man. Such is a story for another time though.

In getting back to basics here:

I tend to think that even though I have made things obvious enough in my own way: Should my Parents-in-Law raise an issue over my Christo Eclectic Path at any given time- I have ways of dragging out the real stories regarding the true histories behind the founding of various denominations and in conclusion I can always throw in the ever popular fact that John the Baptist followed God in his own Solitary way and that he loved God just as much as everyone else did even though he was beheaded thanks to an evil woman and the fowl hell-bound ways of royalty during his time yet even He was rewarded for his loyalty and now resides with God in Heaven just as he knew and held infinite faith in the fact that he would.

John the Baptist is truly one to admire in a way- he was a very blessed man. 

In light of the Christo Craft: We too are a blessed breed and sooner or later folks are going to come to know that. Our missions regarding both life and Spirituality are different than that of the rest of the world. We were made and designed to carry out specific tasks in life in gifted ways and to a great degree- we are like the Heavenly Hosts' Special forces Soldiers. We're called in when we're needed and we're garanteed to get the job done swiftly and efficiently yet with forces that are so powerful that only we have been assigned to handle via using our blessed gifts as our tools for handling such.

I have yet to share that very ideal with my husband. Even though he has come around to finally accepting my path- the understanding for the reasoning behind it is going to take a bit of work and as I will probably find myself saying- more commonly than not: "Everything in God's / Other's time and when the time comes be ready to say and or do what ever needs said and or done."

I make my way around one way or another hehehehe.

Jade Dove aka Missy.



(Message edited by Jade_Dove On 06-03-2010 11:21 AM)
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