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(Date Posted:12/11/2011 6:52 AM)
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Dear Tanya,

Thank you for your mail, correcting me at some length.

I will forward it to the DWP for their comments and am happy to change my views if they agree with you.

You end by saying: "Finally I would ask you to desist from calling disabled people 'The disabled'. Not only is it grammatically incorrect, it is also dehumanising".

I have just come home after spending the last six hours at a Jobs Fair that I organised at the Glos Deaf Association with a specific aim of helping to find work opportunities for people with disabilities.

As far as I know this is the first time such a Jobs Fair has been organised in the city and county.

I do this because I think it matters - and so do the various charities and organisations I worked with.

Rather than trying to score politically correct points about using 'the disabled' as shorthand in blackberry e mailing, come and help do something positive.

What have you done to help find people with disabilities jobs and how would you like to help me and others do so?

With regards Richard

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RE:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:12/11/2011 7:58 AM)

Pompous git
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Re:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:12/11/2011 9:17 AM)

I had a reply from my MP once, asking me if the email I had sent him had been copied from a campaign, with the implication being that such emails would carry less weight than self-written ones. Apparently, the value of your opinion depends on your ability to express it in your own words. Goodness knows what he expects people with disabilities precluding that to do, never mind the ones who just had trouble with their English lessons at school.
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(Date Posted:12/11/2011 9:24 AM)

Dear Richard,
many thanks for your correspondance.

Are you aware that within the deaf community there are those who consider deafness to be an impairment but that it is the actions of society that disable them?
Hopefully the employers at the jobs fair recognised that it is their lack of communication skills that are holding deaf and Deaf people back in employment.

As for your slight about what I do for disabled people, what I do is what I am doing now with you - I try to communicate ideas and the reality of being disabled to those who have no impairments, and try to support those who have.

Many of the people I correspond with are disabled by their conditions, which have symptoms that include incredible amounts of uncontrolled pain, and the associated fatigue and depression that is co-morbid to pain.
I am interested to know how people who are in this degreee of pain are expected to work.

Regarding those who have sensory or mobility only issues, with no pain, fatigue, cognitive impairment, well many of them do work, and the remainder regularly describe their problems with employers, an inflexible benefit system, inaccessible transport and Access to Work.

Please dont tell me that Access to Work helps, a very good friend recently asked them to assist with her business start up.
They stated that they didn't think her self-employment would be viable, and that they would not contribute unless there was a viable business proposal that paid sufficient that she came off means-tested benefits.
For the lady in question this was impossible, she could never work enough hours to be self supporting.
She has now shelved her ideas until Universal Credit comes in, as she is assurred that working and Universal Credit would pay more than benefits, and she will try again.

So no, I didn't organise a jobs fair - I am disabled and the logistics would be too great for me, however I am trying to help others, unpaid, often unthanked, unlike yourself who should be organising these events as a representative of this county and a well reimbursed Commoner.

As for the comment about disabled people being termed "the disabled", then please ask other opinions, maybe from the charities that you associate with. I would wear flame proof clothing though.

Again, many thanks for your communication.
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RE:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:12/11/2011 11:44 AM)

Rather than trying to score politically correct points about using 'the disabled' as shorthand in blackberry e mailing, come and help do something positive.

What have you done to help find people with disabilities jobs and how would you like to help me and others do so?

Blimey, so professional a response - NOT!!!

Obviously on the defensive.  Hmmm, I wonder why....


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RE:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:12/11/2011 1:08 PM)

Dear Sir,
I am so grateful to you for responding to my previous correspondence.  I would indeed like to help deaf and disabled people more than I have been able to do so far.  Would you like me to come with you on your campaigns so that everyone can be made even more aware of what daily life is like for people like me.  I am educated to degree/post-graduate/etc level and would love to use the skills and knowledge that my training and experience in work have given me.

I'm afraid that I cannot drive to appointments due to  **** so could you please make a car and chauffeur available when needed.  I also have food sensitivities and cannot eat .../have to eat .... . I assume that your housekeeper will be able to supply me with a packed lunch and evening meal when we have engagements as I do have to eat at regular times otherwise I become even more ill.  

I will, as you will realise, have to take some days and half-days off to go to hospital and clinic appointments/undertake dialysis, but I am sure that you will be able to work your schedule around these important other appointments.  On the days when I am too ill to go out of the house I will tell your chauffeur when he comes to pick me up; sorry that I will be unable to give you more notice than this, but my disability/chronic disorder is like that, totally unpredictable. Still, I expect that you and your contacts can be flexible enough to re-schedule these meetings at times when I may be available - else how can I help everyone to really know what disability is all about.

I'm really looking forward to working with you in your campaigns to increase awareness and improve communication between disabled people and AB's.  (Oh, bye the way, incase you do not know, AB's are the 'able-bodied'.  Disabled people call them that because they are all the same - they can move around when they want to; it is just a friendly, pet term.)

All the very best.  I will phone you in a few days to make arrangements bout when I can start, although not sure when I will be well enough to do this,

yours sincerely,


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Re:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:12/11/2011 1:11 PM)

LOL Auntie, I love it!
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Re:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:12/11/2011 4:18 PM)

 perhaps DD might offer the MP the link to this thread...
regards,. Deb
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Re:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:13/11/2011 8:57 AM)

That may let the cat out of the bag somewhat...
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Re:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:14/11/2011 9:46 AM)

Brilliant reply, Auntie!!

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RE:Reply from MP.
(Date Posted:14/11/2011 10:47 AM)

This thread has been moved to the new site if you wish to add replies please click on the link.

http://ouchtoo.org/index.php?topic=1149.0
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