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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:04/10/2011 11:19 AM)
<quote> Men over 65 who spend little time in deep sleep are at particularly high risk of developing high blood pressure <quote>
Nothing about us ladies there.
<quote> "Also, sleep deprivation puts increased stress on your body, making us produce more steroids from our adrenal glands, causing us to retain more fat in our body. The result of all these things is that no matter how hard people try to lose weight, they will have an uphill battle if they don't get a good night's sleep." <quote>
Now I know why I'm gaining weight. Wonder if I have a good night tonight that it will all be gone in the
morning. 
<quote> Aim to sleep for seven to eight hours. Some people need less or more, but it's only a minority. <quote>
A little contradictary after saying everyone needs a good nights sleep.
I agree Pen, a lot of us do, but they don't really tell us how to.
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:04/10/2011 12:52 PM)
The result of all these things is that no matter how hard people try to
lose weight, they will have an uphill battle if they don't get a good
night's sleep."
I find that hard to believe somehow - last year when I was in a psychotic/manic phase, I was averaging about three hours a night and the weight was still falling off me (I wasn't trying to lose it, either).
I think every individual has their own sleep needs and will soon find out if they're not getting enough of it by experiencing more irritability, having difficulty making quick decisions and becoming extra clumsy, for instance...
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:05/10/2011 1:42 AM)
The lack of sleep thing can also work because it affects the levels of leptin in the body, which affect appetite. This can lead to over eating in the day as when sleepy people often crave food more easily. But as Kizzy points out, bodies are very individual. I think the research works best for averagely healthy people who live on the edge all the time, and can actually do something about their sleep patterns. It's not fun when no matter what you do you have broken sleep - yuck.
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Dark_Divinity
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:05/10/2011 6:18 AM)
I hate having a bad night's sleep, for the past 4 days it has been particularly bad. I hate tossing and turning, then getting up to get to the toilet then drinking water because my mouth is dry. I think the medication I am currently on is making the dry mouth issue worse. Anyway I am going back to bed in an hour or two. *Yawn*
(Message edited by Dark_Divinity On 05/10/2011 6:22 AM)
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Penthesalie
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:05/10/2011 8:29 AM)
Sleep disturbance is part and parcel of ME, and a bloody nuisance it is too, plus, since I've been on the morphine patches I've noticed that the night the new patch goes on is always far worse for waking up frequently than any other. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Mabelcat
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:05/10/2011 2:50 PM)
I seem to flip between hypersommnia when I can't wake up and nights where I wake up every 40 minutes or so. it's really frustrating and makes it impossible to get into any sort of routine. It doesn't augur well for my planned return to work at the end of the month.
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Yvettea
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:06/10/2011 3:00 AM)
Sorry about the blank post - I pressed the wrong button!
I think the medication I am currently on is making the dry mouth issue worse.
You can get something on prescription to moisten your mouth. I can't remember what it is called. There are several sprays, so if you don't like the taste of one, you can try another.
the night the new patch goes on is always far worse for waking up frequently
Do you leave the old patch on until the next day? If you remove it at the same time as you apply the new patch, try leaving the old patch on until the following day. That may help you sleep better.
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Dark_Divinity
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Reply To Yvettea
(Date Posted:06/10/2011 5:42 AM)
Reply to Yvettea (06/10/2011 3:00 AM)
Sorry about the blank post - I pressed the wrong button!
I think the medication I am currently on is making the dry mouth issue worse.
You can get something on prescription to moisten your mouth. I can't remember what it is called. There are several sprays, so if you don't like the taste of one, you can try another.
the night the new patch goes on is always far worse for waking up frequently
Do you leave the old patch on until the next day? If you remove it at the same time as you apply the new patch, try leaving the old patch on until the following day. That may help you sleep better. You can get something to moisten your mouth? Wow, so there is hope of breaking the drink water and pee all night vicious cycle. Thank-you soooo much!!! :D
Can't you delete the blank post by slecting delete from the drop down list? (Message edited by Dark_Divinity On 06/10/2011 5:55 AM)
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Penthesalie
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:06/10/2011 11:30 AM)
Cheers, Yvette! It's weird, rather like an altered state of mind, complete with odd dreams and a floating sensation
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Mabel, you're a fellow ME person, do you ever find that your body clock changes and your brain is convinced that it's time to get up at 2 in the morning, then you fall back to sleep around 7?
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Hurtyback
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Reply To Penthesalie
(Date Posted:07/10/2011 3:11 AM)
Reply to Penthesalie (06/10/2011 6:30 PM)
Cheers, Yvette! It's weird, rather like an altered state of mind, complete with odd dreams and a floating sensation
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Mabel, you're a fellow ME person, do you ever find that your body clock changes and your brain is convinced that it's time to get up at 2 in the morning, then you fall back to sleep around 7?
I don't have ME (thank dog!) but this is 'normal' for me, even before my back problem. I can be wide awake all night and then go to sleep something after 5am. Mr H's alarm goes off at 6.30... Last night I was still awake at 3am  but I didn't see 4 or 5 and was woken by the alarm, so I must have gone to sleep at some stage.
Do we have a 'yawning' smiley on here??
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:07/10/2011 4:44 AM)
It's weird, rather like an altered state of mind, complete with odd dreams and a floating sensation
Chronic fatigue attacks for me are like this, combined with being able to hear some of the time, but not being able to move, and total disorientation on waking that can last for an hour or more.
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Penthesalie
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:07/10/2011 7:33 AM)
Yes, spot on, Hossy. When all this kicks off it's sensory chaos, like the hearing switching off and on, the sight behaving like you're having a migraine attack, ditto sleep paralysis. Do you ever get the sensation that you can feel your hands, but it's as if your arms don't exist, so your hands aren't connected to your body in any way?
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hossylass
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:07/10/2011 9:18 AM)
I often feel like they are miles away, and swollen like huge balloons.
I had CF attack yesterday morning, and it ruined my day completely - mainly as I lost half the day, but also you feel so drained afterwards... whereas other people who take a "nap" feel refreshed.
CF is a bloody life bandit, and the further into winter we get, the more frequent the attacks become. They will revert to being daily, or twice daily, and then that is any quality of life out of the window until about June or July.
And before anyone asks - yes I do keep up the vitamin D, have a daylight lamp and stay warm!
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KizzyKazaer
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:07/10/2011 12:22 PM)
Yvette, I've deleted your blank post, no worries
 Do we have a 'yawning' smiley on here??We do have a snooze smiley ...  Hossy mentioned naps...does anyone derive any benefit from having a sleep during the day? I am very partial to my afternoon siesta (can sleep from 1 - 3 hours!)
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Hurtyback
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:07/10/2011 1:07 PM)
I often sleep during the day if I have had a bad night - otherwise I just eel too wiped out to do anything anyway (thanks KK!).
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:08/10/2011 2:10 PM)
When I was hospitalised because of MG, I was advised by by a nurse who specialised in MG and like conditions that I should where possible sleep or at least rest in the afternoon as this would help conserve the acetylcholine that was available as he said you have only so much acetylcholine the more you use up doing things the faster it runs out. So thats What I try to do.
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:08/10/2011 5:28 PM)
Hmm, Ironic John, I get my energy at around 3.00pm in the afternoon. So if I am asleep I will have missed the only part of the day when I can more or less guarantee that I can be active. I go through patches when I wake up every hour throughout the night, and then it occasionally goes to 2 hours. I feel quite lucky if I get a short patch of three-hour bouts of sleep. You should see the black, saggy, bags under my eyes. (appealing vision, huh?)
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:14/10/2011 4:05 AM)
anyone been diagnosed for sleep apnea? some of your posts sound like your that worn out that your bodies keping you awake. ie bodies zonked but the mind just keeps racing.
sleep apnea and related respiratry conditions can be caused by being over weight, meds and underlying conditions. your body is simply not getting the right oxygen/co2 due to the throat sucking itself closed when you sleep.
the key symptoms are, snooring- sleeping during the day(anytime you sit still for 5) sore heads -- in more severe cases like mine was you go a lovely shade of blue.
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:14/10/2011 5:33 PM)
I haven't been diagnosed with sleep apnoea but a good buddy of mine was. She has a CPAP positive pressure machine now - a mask with air delivered under pressure to keep her airways open. At the time, she was morbidly obese -24 stones at 4'10'' - she has managed to lose some weight since. The machine took a lot of getting used to but has made such a difference. Previously her snoring was so loud that it could be clearly heard through double glazing outside the house. A mutual friend referred to it as 'the Titanic docking'.
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hossylass
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:15/10/2011 2:49 AM)
24 stone? Poor soul.
Thats 3 times what she should be - I hope she has help and support to lose more weight - she must be phenomenally strong carrying around that 16 extra stone.
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:20/10/2011 1:42 AM)
like most o f my life my sleep patterns are chaotic and rather all or nothing.. sometimes I get none for 3 days and other times I can sleep all day and night, saly i dont get mush refreshing sleep and so I almost always feel drowsy and woosy. It doesnt help my eupd because it drains my ability to concentrate on keeping my ups and down under control..sometimes I d just like to be able to take a pill to shut the world out and sleep for a week !
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KizzyKazaer
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:20/10/2011 4:15 AM)
Only a week? I've often wished we could do as some animals do and hibernate throughout the coldest of the winter months -just imagine the bills we would save on, and wouldn't it be fun fattening up ready for the big sleep
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Hurtyback
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Reply To KizzyKazaer
(Date Posted:20/10/2011 5:29 AM)
Reply to KizzyKazaer (20/10/2011 11:15 AM) Only a week? I've often wished we could do as some animals do and hibernate throughout the coldest of the winter months -just imagine the bills we would save on, and wouldn't it be fun fattening up ready for the big sleep
Sounds like my idea of heaven! 
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Penthesalie
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Re:Sleep
(Date Posted:20/10/2011 7:57 AM)
Count me in on the fattening up and hibernating, LOL!
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RE:Sleep
(Date Posted:20/10/2011 1:03 PM)
oh yes this would be my idea of heaven as well i think i eat enough over the winter to hibernate  mareer
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